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SUN cartridges and low temperatures

Recently we got a request from the customer to check the system components to work in a low-temperature environment up to -40°C. Most components in the customer’s system were SUN cartridges.

And I was really surprised by the mess of info on the Sun Hydraulic website about seals that SUN uses in their cartridges.

For example, on the “Seals: Materials of Construction” page you can find the manufacturer’s temperature range: from -22° to 230° F (-30° to 110° C) for Buna N (Nitrile) and -22 to 260° F (-30 to 125°C) for Polyurethane O-rings.

But, if you download Technical Product Information PDF from their library, you can find different temperature range for Buna N: -50°F to 200°F which means -45°C..+93°C and no info about Polyurethane O-rings.

This is why I was confused and had a lot of questions to SUN:

1. Why the different info is provided on SUN website?
2. Why there isn’t a choice for Polyurethane O-rings in seal material when selecting cartridges in the SUN catalog?
3. Why SUN has so high temperatures for the low environment for both Buna N and Polyurethane seals?

Really, all competitors have better low-temperature limits for their cartridges, for example:

– Parker’s Nitrile: from -40°C to +93.3°C
– Danfoss/Comatrol, Buna-N: from -40°C
– Bucher, Buna “N”: from -40°C to +120°C
– Doering, Buna N: from -42.7°C to +93.3°C
– Eaton, Buna N: from -40°C to +120°C
– Hydraforce’ Buna “N”: -40°C to +100°C; polyurethane: -54°C to +107°C.

Because it was critical for my application, I have sent a request directly to SUN to get answers to the questions above and have gotten next response: the correct low work temperature for Buna N is -30°C. Сoncerning the polyurethane seals – this is not a standard option, but any cartridge can be assembled with polyurethane o-rings that provides low temperature rate to -40°C. Not a big difference in the price, but because this is going to be a custom modification the delivery time for cartridges (statement on November 2021) is 15..16 weeks (what actually is not bad for SUN).

Just would like to share this experience with you…

SUN Hydraulics – delivery time issue

SUN delivery issueWorking on the design of new projects I like to involve SUN Hydraulics valves and use them a lot. They are not expensive, pretty reliable and have uncredible understandable paper and online catalogs.

All these major benefits coming to naught as soon delivery time even of very wonderfull products makes impossible to use them in projects. This is exactly what going on these days.

Today I got a quotation from a local vendor for the valve FDEA-LAN with delivery time 31 weeks!!! It is longer than my project needs to be completed!

Helios Technologies (formerly known as Sun Hydraulics) has three facilities in the Americas, two in Europe and already three in Asia-Pacific (one more plant in China has been opened this year). But this fact doesn’t help to provide SUN valves faster.

Because the company, where I’m working now, has fillies in Europe we know the issue with the SUN product delivery time is currently common for the whole world. There no any comments from SUN and its parent Helios at their websites and I see the delivery time is increasing every month.

Therefore, I’m seriously starting to think about solutions on how to proceed. Problem is a lot of manifolds that have already been designed in our projects use SUN cavities. And to re-design of these manifolds is a pain, you know why. I’m seriously thinking to use SUN clones to cover these positions. Currently, I dug the next manufacturers:

  • Winner Hydraulic. This is a manufacturer from Taiwan, but they do not have distributors in North America.
  • PressureBoss Hydraulics Inc. From their website is not clear what country their plant is physically situated. They have distributors in the US but not in Canada.

For new projects, I’m starting to look at Parker and Eaton cartridges. They have a pretty good assortment and actually last months I already used some of their valves as quick replacement options.

How you are dealing with SUN Hydraulic delivery issue?